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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_May_2

May 2

Category:Films about Orthodoxy

• Propose merging Category:Films about Orthodoxy to Category:Films about Christianity

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:10, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Christian media

• Propose renaming Category:Christian media to Category:Christian mass media

Nominator's rationale: To match parents and subcats, despite the short name of lead article Christian media. – Fayenatic London 11:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Religious films by religion

• Propose renaming Category:Religious films by religion to Category:Films about religions

Nominator's rationale: This holds subcats of films about religions, not necessarily religious films. It's a subcat of Films about religion by religion, but "Films about religion(s) by religion" sounds clumsy and unnecessarily wordy.

• Note 1: Wikipedia used to have "Christian films" etc, but these were renamed to "Films about…" at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 May 11.
• Note 2: Another option is upmerging to Category:Films about religion, but the nominated cat is a useful subcat of Mass media by religion and Films by culture. If upmerged, it should also be merged to Films by culture. – Fayenatic London 11:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
• Rename for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:11, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Evangelical medias

• Propose renaming Category:Evangelical medias to Category:Evangelical Christian mass media

Nominator's rationale: "media" is a already a plural noun. Add "Christian" like some within Evangelicalism. Add "mass" like Mass media by religion. Note: Christian media does not currently have "mass" but follows the name of its main article Christian media. – Fayenatic London 11:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Anna Maria Jopek songs

• Propose deleting Category:Anna Maria Jopek songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one known entry, which is itself a redirect, making this category essentially redundant. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 12:37, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Critics of Spiritism

• Propose merging Category:Critics of Spiritism to Category:Critics of Spiritualism

Nominator's rationale: The two articles Richard Washburn Child and Bartolo Longo only mention Spiritualism, not Spiritism. – Fayenatic London 09:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Note: sibling small categories of critics created by the same editor have been deleted, see User_talk:DJKinsella#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Critics_of_Christadelphianism. – Fayenatic London 12:01, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:2001 in Norwegian cinema

• Propose renaming Category:1996 in Norwegian cinema to Category:1990s Norwegian films
• Propose renaming Category:2001 in Norwegian cinema to Category:2000s Norwegian films
• Propose renaming Category:Norwegian cinema by year to Category:Norwegian films by decade

Nominator's rationale: This contains films, which are normally categorised by country and decade, e.g. Category:2000s American films. Cinema categories by year are for festivals, awards etc, e.g. Category:2001 in American cinema. Norwegian decade film categories can immediately be populated with sub-cats for Norwegian-language films, since these are almost exclusively Norwegian. – Fayenatic London 08:37, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Rename, the categories contain films, not topic articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Lists of festivals by continent and city

• Propose merging Category:Lists of festivals by continent and city to Category:Lists of festivals by city

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, this is the only subcategory of the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• But this also functions as a subcat of Category:Lists of festivals by continent and Category:Festivals by continent and city. Maybe upmerge the target instead? – Fayenatic London 11:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• I am ok with that as well and tagged the target too. We still need to figure out the targets for that one. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Events by region

• Propose renaming Category:Events by region to Category:Organized events by region

Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent, with very few exceptions this is all about organized events. After renaming the category can be moved under Category:Organized events by location. SubCategory:The Holocaust by region should be purged after the rename as these are not organized events. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Jewish American state legislators

• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators to Category:Jewish state legislators in America Category:Jewish state legislators in the United States

Nominator's rationale: The naming is just a bit confusing on the parent category, because it can be read as American describing the individual or the state. The real problem is in the subcategories, "Jewish American state legislators in Maine", as if some state legislators in Maine might not be American, which seems at least rather unlikely. Those should just be "Jewish state legislators in Maine". Nat Gertler (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• If renamed then to Category:Jewish state legislators in the United States. But if the real problem is in the subcategories then those should be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:03, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  Forgive me, this is a section of Wikipedia I'm not normal to and don't know the proper pattern for mass nominations. (But yes, you're right, United States is better.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 13:27, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  • @NatGertler: You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

    That seems to require a level of technical expertise and comfort which I do not have. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if the proposed names are better. This format follows the same as Category:African-American state legislators in Maine and so on.--User:Namiba 14:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, but African-American is needed because alone, "African" suggests, well, not a specific nationality but a range of them that needs correcting with the American; "Jewish" doesn't. We have plenty of categories that start with African-American and then have a place (Start typing "Category:African-American history in" into the search box.) There appear to be no categories that start "Catholic American" and the only one that starts Muslim American is Category:Muslim Americans, and doesn't have another place name (and even then, is a dead category holder, telling you to go look at American Muslims instead.) Looking at categories that start with "Jewish American", we have things like Category:Jewish-American history by city, but if you look at the subcategories there where locations are actually named, the "American" is dropped; they're in the form of "History of the Jews in Natchez, Mississippi". -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC) Adding: Oh, here's a good example: Category:LGBTQ state legislators of the United States, not LGBTQ-American. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:51, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  • Ok, that makes sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  @NatGertler: do you want me to tag all of the subcategories? Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  If you could, that would be great. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  Similarly named categories include Asian American and Pacific Islander state legislators, Hispanic and Latino American state legislators and Native American state legislators. What do they come under? Moondragon21 (talk) 07:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Tagging all subcategories.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Alabama to Category:Jewish state legislators in Alabama
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Alaska to Category:Jewish state legislators in Alaska
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Arizona to Category:Jewish state legislators in Arizona
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in California to Category:Jewish state legislators in California
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Colorado to Category:Jewish state legislators in Colorado
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Connecticut to Category:Jewish state legislators in Connecticut
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Florida to Category:Jewish state legislators in Florida
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Jewish state legislators in Georgia (U.S. state)
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Hawaii to Category:Jewish state legislators in Hawaii
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Illinois to Category:Jewish state legislators in Illinois
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Kentucky to Category:Jewish state legislators in Kentucky
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Louisiana to Category:Jewish state legislators in Louisiana
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Maine to Category:Jewish state legislators in Maine
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Maryland to Category:Jewish state legislators in Maryland
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Massachusetts to Category:Jewish state legislators in Massachusetts
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Michigan to Category:Jewish state legislators in Michigan
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Minnesota to Category:Jewish state legislators in Minnesota
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Mississippi to Category:Jewish state legislators in Mississippi
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Missouri to Category:Jewish state legislators in Missouri
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Nevada to Category:Jewish state legislators in Nevada
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in New Jersey to Category:Jewish state legislators in New Jersey
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in New Mexico to Category:Jewish state legislators in New Mexico
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in New York (state) to Category:Jewish state legislators in New York (state)
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Ohio to Category:Jewish state legislators in Ohio
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Pennsylvania to Category:Jewish state legislators in Pennsylvania
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in South Dakota to Category:Jewish state legislators in South Dakota
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Texas to Category:Jewish state legislators in Texas
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Utah to Category:Jewish state legislators in Utah
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Vermont to Category:Jewish state legislators in Vermont
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Virginia to Category:Jewish state legislators in Virginia
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in West Virginia to Category:Jewish state legislators in West Virginia
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Wisconsin to Category:Jewish state legislators in Wisconsin

No opinion on the merits. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Rename all, "American" is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Telegram channels of Russia

• Propose renaming Category:Telegram channels of Russia to Category:Russian Telegram channels

Nominator's rationale: To correspond with Category:Russian news websites and similar. – GnocchiFan (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

But they are not necessarily “Russian.” Channels in this category are related to Russia, but they do not necessarily have to be Russian (also another case of "of Russia": Category:Mass media companies of Russia). --MocnyDuham (talk) 16:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Note: 'of Russia' makes it clear it's from the country. 'Russian...' could mean any Russian-language channels. The distinction is subtle, but important. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:27, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. After that the category can possibly have more names. Azuredivay (talk) 19:15, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It has been pointed out that this would entail a change in scope of the category. Should the category be renamed and have its scope changed?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)